This weekend my wife and I went on a date. We saw Craig Ferguson perform his comedy routine at a local theater. If you have never stayed up past Letterman to watch his show - he is pretty funny. The live stand up routine differs from the TV show primarily with the use of the word FUCK, a lot. This made my wife uncomfortable, but I thought it was entertaining. One of the things he talked about was the chaos and irresponsibility inherent on the internet. He suggested that anyone posting on the net should ask themselves these simple rules1) Does this need to be said ?
2) Does this need to be said by me ?
3) Does this need to be said by me now ?
I've been thinking for a while what to say about the chaos and coaching situation at Michigan - and have decided it was time to add my opinion to the steaming pile out there. So to answer Craig's three questions: Yes, likely not, and sure why not.
The first and most important thing to me on this subject is simply... I am a Michigan fan. I grew up in the state and have been a fan for as long as I can remember. I attended and graduated from the University. In the past, I have donated money to both the University and the athletic department. I run this blog with one of my best friends from Michigan for fun. I have brainwashed my kids into thinking this institution is great. For many years, I was a season ticket holder despite the fact there are 1,373 miles between my house and the Big House. None of this qualifies me for anything other than a personal opinion. In short, my college football loyalty sits with Michigan. The events and struggles over the last two seasons have not shaken that loyalty. It pains me greatly to watch the program struggle, but I have no doubt we will emerge from this dark period as a stronger program.Rich Rodriguez is our football coach. As such, I support him. I still believe he is a capable football coach. Rich Rodriguez has been successful as a football coach in the past. As such, I am willing to give him more time to make it work here. I still believe he is a capable football coach. Rich Rodriguez is a human being. As such, I do not expect him to be perfect. I still believe he is a capable football coach.
For some reason, Rich Rodriguez is a lightning rod for controversy. His short time as our football coach has been nothing short of a ridiculous soap opera. Some of these controversies have been self inflicted (#1 jersey, Captains, piped in music) while others have been nothing more than a sickening character lynching. I am far from unbiased, but there is no doubt in my mind Rich Rodriguez is and has been the target of witch hunt designed to ensure his failure. Many of these attacks come from expected sources and are part of the fun of coaching a major college football program -- but others are criminally irresponsible.The most blatant offender in the public lynching of Rich Rodrigez has been the Detroit Free Press. From now on, I will simply refer to this publication as the "FDFP" (Fucking Detroit Free Press). From day one of RR's tenure the writers and editors of the FDFP have demonstrated their anti-RR-bias. The constant drum beat from the FDFP has been comical, but now this bias has delivered NCAA investigators and ridiculous rules violations to the program. Enough is enough. The FDFP lied about the rules violation in an effort sell newspapers in a bad economy. The damage was unnecessary and reprehensible. If you are a subscriber to this publication, you should call and cancel your business. If your business advertises with this paper, you should eliminate that expense. If you link to or read the words created by this paper online, you should remove the URL from your bookmarks. This is not misplaced or redirected anger. The FDFP needs to be put out of business from the supporters of the institution they have damaged.
But Andy, what about the actual NCAA Violations committed by RR and staff ? There is no doubt specific rules were not followed by the current staff. Yes, an assistant lied. Michigan needs to stand up and fix these errors. The assistant needs to be fired. But that should be the end of it.
Say what you want about major or secondary violations, the binary nature of the NCAA rule book and the violation categories is a joke. If the NCAA ran the criminal justice system in America, a parking ticket would be a felony and punishable by death. Every football fan in the country knows it. Every football coach in the country knows if their program were investigated in the same manner, similar violations would erupt. Good football teams work hard. What happened in Ann Arbor was not "major violation" of anything. Holding up what our program is accused of in the face of a team beat down of engineering students, illegal payments by a booster to a player, widespread academic fraud, and a player receiving cash, a car and a condo is laughable. We practiced too long and hard and our coaches made sure our players were going to class. Yawn.
But Andy, Michigan has a higher standard. To this I say bullshit. There is not one standard for everyone else and a higher one for Michigan. There is ONE standard and we need to committed to follow that standard. This elitist mentality is not productive or sustainable. I don't care that this incident has stained our spotless program. The basketball team and Ed Martin did that long ago. These apparent NCAA violations committed are equivalent to a paper cut. Get over it.
But Rich Rodriguez is not a Michigan Man. At this point, the myth of a so called Michigan Man is the most self-serving and arrogant thing I have ever heard. No wonder the rest of the college football world hates us. Is there actually a nominating committee that sits somewhere and determines entry into the exclusive club ? Did Bo somehow make the grade from an Ohio State Man to Miami Man to Michigan Man? What about Fielding Yost ? Did he go to some special class before he left West Virginia that Rich Rodriguez failed to enroll ? Give me a break.The myth of the Michigan Man is just that... a myth. Bo used it in 1989 to describe Steve Fisher in his anger over the resignation of Bill Frieder. I ask you this, is Steve Fisher the model Michigan Man ? What about Gary Moeller ? Rick Leach ? This myth needs to vanish because it is preventing us from moving forward. I love Bo, but he is dead. He is not coming back to coach the team or pick the next coach.
You are just a Rich Rod supporting robot. I want to be proud of my school. Period. At this point, yes I still believe that RR can still win football games for my school. I am frustrated with the lack of success so far, but I know the damage of firing a coach right now is far greater than staying the course and letting the system develop. I have read and watched enough to understand the issues and believe they are going to be improved. He was given a terrible hand and we expect him to win the World Series of Poker. If RR fails to win enough football games, rest assured, I won't support him. He just has not been given enough of a chance so far.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I have shared mine. The only thing I ask you is that you recognize the situation and give the program a chance to be successful. If he fails to win ball games, yes he needs to go. But now is not the time.
22 comments:
Nicely put!
Putting the Detroit Free Press out of business is not the right course of action. The last thing this state needs or Rodriguez would want would be more unemployed people.
If the Free Press chooses to continue to employ fiction writers as reporters - they deserve everything that comes with it.
Ah-men.
"He suggested that anyone posting on the net should ask themselves these simple rules
1) Does this need to be said ?
2) Does this need to be said by me ?
3) Does this need to be said by me now ?"
-If I answered any of these questions honestly, I'd never post on this blog.
Phil... I am with you on that. I just asked myself all three and answered no to all of them but am going to post anyway.....
Andy.. You and I are closer to agreeing than you might think on this entire topic of potential violations. There has been alot of emotion in the recent posts on this subject. Like you, I have been a Michigan fan and season ticket holder for many years.
Rich Rod's early misunderstandings of the #1, captains, rivalries, etc. is what I mean when I say he is not a "Michigan Man" It is nothing more to me than someone who understands that the history and tradition of Michigan football are larger than any one coach or player and change should not be made without consideration for how it will impact this hisory and tradition. RR's early problems were just this type of thing. The idea of a "Michigan Man" is hard to define which is why I always use the term in quotes.
I also agree that the types of violations do not compare to some of the significant ones that have happened at other schools. Michigan does not have a higher standard, but has always at least met and maybe even exceded the standard in football until now.
It is obvious I do not like Rich Rod and never did from the start, but I still support the team and have been willing to give him a chance to improve. If he does not start winning soon he will be removed regardless of how this current situation turns out. And regardless of the win-loss record, I will be at Michgan Stadium for every home game cheering them on.
The one thing I know we agree on is our passion for Michigan football and that will never change for either of us. That is why we get so fired up about this stuff and why I love the Spawn.
Andy: Great read. My thoughts to a "T".
GoBlueBob: Out of curiosity, why did you not like RR from the start? Not at all trying to get in a pissing match, here. You seem somewhat levelheaded from other posts here so I'd like to know why you didn't like him.
CT... I am not sure why but just had a gut feeling he was not the guy to bring in. I guess I was worried that he was not a strong defensive coach and that has been the traditional strength Michigan had. Since everyone was wanting a change to the offense it might have made sense but something about him just did not seem right to me.
So at the risk of getting completely drawn and quartered, and possibly disowned...
um, how exactly did the FDFP lie?
there was definitely exaggeration and added dramatic effect...and they completely threw some kids waaaay under the bus, but what was not correct about what they wrote?
The FDFP stated that there were mandatory work outs for players that missed class, that there were football related activities on Sundays that exceeded regular time limits, and that staffers watched/coached practices when they shouldn't have.
The NCAA states problems in 5 main areas:
1) The notice states that five quality control officers — staff members who are not technically coaches, but work with the football team — illegally engaged in coaching activities.
2) the University violated regulations that prohibit staff members from monitoring football players in voluntary, off-season workouts and conditioning — two activities that the athletic department is also accused of having exceeded time restrictions on.
3)called out Michigan football coach Rich Rodriguez for acting in a manner that “failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance within the football program” and for failing to sufficiently monitor the activities of his program with regard to the other allegations.
4) The athletic department is similarly charged with not properly overseeing the activities of the football program with regard to the allegations.
and
5) Alex Herron, a graduate assistant football coach, is accused of providing NCAA investigators with misleading, and at times, false information about his role in the situation.
While I don't disagree with the general disregard for Drew Sharp, Mark Snyder, and Michael Rosenberg and I can guarantee you I don't subscribe to the FDFP, I can't concur with the "they lied" so it's all ok mantras that many of my beloved M fans are chanting...
ok. flack jacket and helmet are on.
discuss...
casting aside which team i root for, i completely agree with title9 - the free press didn't "lie". they reported what kids told them. did they get those quotes in a sneaky way? perhaps. did those kids know that they were essentially revealing ncaa violations? i'm sure they didn't. but that doesn't make what the free press said a lie. the fact that the ncaa's findings were way under what the free press reported probably has as much to do with these same kids and other sources realizing after the fact the consequences of their words. perhaps the kids were exaggerating the first time to make it sound like they put in TONS of hours. who knows.
but they weren't lies.
by the way, a poster on the scout stadium and main forum brought up this little tidbit of information.
http://www.wboy.com/sjuploads/Pastilong%20deposition%20transcript%20(C0275450).TXT
Ed Pastilong's deposition in Rich Rodriguez vs West Virginia
page 145-146
Asking about meetings with Rich Rodriguez...
15 October 13, a meeting with Rich and our
16 compliance coordinator.
17 Q And who was that?
18 A Brad Cox.
19 Q And what was that meeting about?
20 A Well, that was to discuss coaching limits,
21 personnel that were involved with practice. It was a
22 preventive type meeting, to make sure that we did not
23 have graduate assistants, people that were not
24 accountable with regards to the nine coaches, and two
25 assistants, that are permitted to coach, to make sure
145
1 that we didn't make an error, to protect us, to
2 protect Rich.
So RichRod had conversations with West Virginia's compliance officer on what coaches and grad assistants can and can't do. So how can he say he wasn't aware of the rules with Michigan???
They even said they had these conversations with him to protect HIM.
anyway, interesting stuff - kudos to title9 for asking the question no one seems to want to ask.
btw - to me these violations WERE minor and i am sure most other schools do the same. just as i'm sure somewhere there's a michigan booster palming $500 to a wolverine player ala Troy Smith. it's too hard to police boosters and probably too hard for a kid from a poor background to turn down something like that.
The difference in both cases is that both schools got caught for doing what they were doing wrong.
I linked to the reason why I believe the FDFP lied, provided by our friends at the WLA.
"A lie requires the person to state a falsehood, and know that it is false at the time."
Here is their post
In short, the paper printed things for the sole purpose of causing a stir and selling newspapers. In the process they harmed the coach and program. They hid behind poor journalistic methods and only presented facts to support their slanted position. They omitted (or failed to check on) key items. In simple newspaper terms... they lied.
Hmmm. was going to say something the other day but couldn't find the words and the eye is acting up again.
Rich Rod will win. It's what he does. I thought he was slimey when he got here and hasn't shown me anything to dissuade me.
Thing is, I never went to school there. I've never been more than just a fan. It's why I'm a fan that counts. You, Andy and T9 have lived a part of life I didn't and maybe couldn't have. I respect the education that you have. I respect what one can do with a degree from Michigan. I am good at what I do. I have always tried to use you, The leaders and best as an example.
We only see smoke. Trouble is there's a lot of it.
I agree that the reporters at the FDFP are far from responsible journalists. They did not obtain all the facts, nor did they accurately represent what the kids said, and that they used the naivete of 18-19 year old kids to embellish their "piece" of investigative journalism.
The media is replete with this kind of hyperbole, half-truths (lies?), and innuendos with blown up mis-representations. Hell, the National Enquirer was trying to claim its eligibility for the Pulitzer because it broke the Edwards Love Child story....
These yahoos at the FDFP are no better. I guess that begs the question then do the means justify the ends? And for sure I'd have to say no. BUT--they did uncover the fact that violations happened. Does their lack of journalistic integrity/capability make the information inadmissible??
dunno.
I think this whole thing is crap though and I put it squarely at the feet of Rich Rod.
And, I appreciate the 'sympathy' we are getting from others, given the pedantic and petty nature of the allegations and the NCAAs capricious rules.
It's just one more thing we didn't need.....
You guys are so impatient. I have it on good authority that the NCAA commission will resolve the Reggie Bush investigation by 2033.
I don't suppose the FDFP would care to investigate the NCAA commission? I'd actually buy one of their rags to read that.
I agree. I think Craig Ferguson is the funniest talk show host on TV.
I think what's lost here is that any journalist of any nature is technically a used car salesman by nature. True journalism died long ago and now it's a race to spin a story in such a way that your paper/mag/show gets more viewers than the others. Technically it's not lying but technically it's not the truth either. There was a great Sunday paper cartoon I saw a while ago that summed up journalism perfectly but I can't remember what it said or which specific comic it was.
As the M situation goes for whatever reason this was definitely a hit squad by the FP against Michigan and they brought about these charges. Otherwise this never would have come up. This could be done by any majore newspaper against any program in the country. Why Detroit's major newspaper chose Detroit area's major college I have no idea. Someone in that organization was wronged by M in some way. This will blow over and this has been a train wreck since the Llloyd Carr resignation. I see this as RR's last year unless they win a Big Ten title and then who knows? The roller coaster will hit it's second hill and gain speed again and we'll all be holding our heads going "WTF?" Doesn't mean I won' t like Michigan any less. I am the epitome of "fan." I have absolutely no ties to the University or the state or anything and I love them as if they were my own. I somewhat tried the application process when I was ending my HS years but I was confused and also damn scared of the cost and the distance from home. I wish I had had some help and gone there and made my allegiance official. I don't know if that makes me a Michigan Man or not but I believe I am.
On a lighter side my wife and I were at the eye drs yesterday and the guy razzed me a little for my hat. Then he said he had a bunch of friends who went to M and he's been to a bucnh of games and they are quite fun. He also told me that his wife's friend is a Gynecologist who graduated from M and works in this area. When he delivers he wears his M beanie so that the first thing the kid sees is a Michigan hat.
Hail.
Good stuff Andy, my thoughts to a T as well. Also, good discussion everyone.
As for a little bit on my thoughts: I wanted Les Miles to begin with because I liked that he was a Michigan Man (the kind like GBBob stated) and that he was fiery like Bo. I wanted a coach to light a fire under a team I thought got very soft under Carr. Les is a winner, hates OSU (and soon after beat OSU), he can recruit the deep south, and he is defensive minded. I have always seen UofM as a QB and offensive school and really wanted a defensive coach, like good SEC schools play D, and like Michigan hadn't since 1997 (beating OSU in the same season is also a requirement to call it a good D... sorry 2006).
I heard some inside rumblings in the program about how Lloyd hated Les and thus outed the hire to ESPN so as to put Les in a rock and a hard place before the SEC title game, forcing Les to denounce the hire. For that I can never forgive Lloyd for he undermined the rest of Michigan in an attempt to satisfy his personal desires to never see Les as the head man. I am anti Lloyd Carr for that reason, and the feeling that he got soft starting in 2005 and hung on not for the good of the program, but because he liked it.
When we lost out on Les I was hoping for Brian Kelly. He was up and coming, an offensive genius like Urban (without the dramatics and word vomit), and he had connections to the state. Word on the street was that he had upset enough UofM boosters somehow to not get hired though. This particularly pains me because now ND has him, and I do not see ND nation sabotaging his efforts the way UofM has so embarrassingly done to R2. I am a believer that unfortunately Kelly will awaken the echoes in South Bend... dammit.
After that I was satisfied with the hire, and I echo Andy's sentiments after that. R2 is our coach, and needs to be supported 100% until a time may come when it is necessary for him to go (and that is the AD's job to make that call). Until then, spreading the hateful voice of brazen dissent is a slimy and pathetic act of treason (you call it freedom of speech if you want, I call it bullshit)... only serving to satisfy ones desire to feel more important by gaining the ear of those who would listen to impending disaster. I guess I am bringing in my Marine Corps education here, but undermining the chain of command can be downright disastrous to the efforts of success. There is a proper way to voice concerns, and then there is sabotage (its a great song by the Beastie Boys).
I believe R2 will win. I believe losing out on that delinquent TP hurt a lot to start the transition, and I believe the rest of the damage has been done by biased media, and weak minded Michigan fans who turn their ear to anyone without checking the facts for themselves. Nonetheless I believe R2 will overcome and win. Please, please win.
Excellent post. I agree with what you wrote 100%.
Now I just wish RR would be quiet and win some freaking football games.
Well Shorty I might be wrong about RR but I'm sure as hell not weak minded. I call them as I see them.
picture the scene- a landspeeder, idling at a check point on the outskirts of Anchorhead:
Obi Wan Shorty: "These are not the droids you are looking for"
Stormtrooper Tom C: "These are not the droids we are looking for"
Obi Wan Shorty: "We can go about our business"
Stormtrooper Tom C: "They can go about their business"
and as the landspeeder drives off:
Andy Skywalker: "How'd you do that, Ole' Ben Shorty?"
Obi Wan Shorty: "The Force gives you power over weak minds..."
I haven't really chimed in on this but I will now. I am from the state of Michigan and I wanted to go to the University but wants and what ends up happen sometimes don't meet. I ended up going down the street on Washtenaw but I still remain a Michigan fan (except when they play Eastern at which point I'm torn...but ultimately blue wins out....go figure). Anyways....
From the sounds of it, it is not up the scale of violations at other schools but it is still a violation. Michigan has prided itself on running a clean ship. However, I feel that the NCAA being the bullies that they are will milk this for all that it is worth. They can use this prove that what they do works while they pretend that it's all about the "student-athletes". Meanwhile other schools get away with murder.
As for Rich Rod, there is something about him that I don't like but he is the coach of the team that I like and I hope that he has every bit of success. At this point, I would like to see him at least finish out his contract (or be allowed to). If he does well this year and next year, then the University should see about keeping him longer if they feel if he fits in with thier plans. I think the University owes it to him to see how he does when the bulk of the players are ones that he recruited because theoretically they should fit in with his system.
APPLAUSE! Very nicely put and as other's have said, my thoughts to a "T".
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